Originally Published: March 17th & 18th, 2011
Part I – Offense
So, for your information, I’m robbing this idea from Seahawks.com. I thought a fan-voted poll was interesting and was curious how spot-on they were. I also wanted to see if I could pick a Blue & Green Dream Second Team … but eventually lost interest in trying to find the NEXT five best offensive linemen.
Also, for your information, I’m getting all forthcoming stats and information from this site. Right or wrong, LEROY JENKINS!
Starting with Quarterback, Matt Hasselbeck is obviously the Number 1 choice. He’s got Dave Krieg beat in Total Yards, Games Played, Completion Percentage, and Yards Per Game. Surprisingly, Krieg has 21 more touchdown passes (even more surprisingly when you consider he played under Ground Chuck), but Krieg also has 20 more interceptions, so I guess that somewhat evens out.
Know what’s really sad? After Hasselbeck, Krieg, and Zorn, you know who our 4th and 5th best all-time quarterbacks were? Try Jon Kitna and Rick Mirer (in PROBABLY that order, though Mirer did throw about 1,500 more yards while in a Seahawk uni). Fun fact: if you went by total yards, Charlie Whitehurst is already our 17th best QB (and a mere 160 yards behind our 16th best QB, Brock Huard).
On to Running Back; again, kind of a no-brainer. Shaun Alexander was on a Hall of Fame track … then he signed a big contract extension after a Super Bowl season in which he ran for 1,880 yards and a league-record (for 1 season) 27 touchdowns. From there, he turned 30, developed foot problems, struggled for 2 more years and was forced into early retirement after a brief, non-descript stint with the Washington Redskins. Still, in his time, he eclipsed the next best rushers by nearly 3,000 yards and 45 touchdowns.
As for my Official Second Team Running Back, I’d have to go with Curt Warner. Though, did you know that Chris Warren beat Warner by a single yard in total yardage? When you factor in Warner had 10 more TDs while also playing for vastly superior Seahawk teams, I’m giving him the nod. Honorable mention goes to Ricky ‘Running’ Watters. He only played with us for 4 seasons, but was forced into retirement while still running at an elite level (and because Alexander was chomping at the bit to take over the reigns). There’s a lot to like about Watters’ hard-nosed style, though.
Fun fact #2: Jim Zorn is our 9th best runner, with 1,491 total yards. Fun fact #3: Julius Jones is #10.
At Wide Receiver, we have our consensus #1 overall choice, Hall of Famer Steve Largent. Just putting it out there: he’s my favorite football player of all time. And, I gotta say, he doesn’t get NEARLY the credit he’s due, considering he owned just about every single receiving record by the time he retired after the 1989 season. 13,089 yards, 819 receptions, 100 touchdowns, 16.0 yards per catch. He was with us from the very beginning, made Dave Krieg look like an elite quarterback at times, and it’s too bad he never got a Super Bowl championship to cap off a wonderful career.
After that, on the list we have Brian Blades and Bobby Engram. Blades ended his career as our Number 2 receiver, picking up the slack after Largent retired; Engram became our 4th best receiver. Sandwiched between them, and obviously not getting the respect he’s due, is Darrell Jackson. Jackson had about 1,600 more yards than Engram and was our only semblance of a Number 1 receiver during his tenure. I can’t fathom why Engram was picked over Jackson, except that he was more of a fan favorite. Maybe it was Jackson’s drops early in his career. Maybe it was his contentious relationship with management that soured him on Seahawks fans. Or, maybe it was all those clutch 3rd down receptions Engram made to extend drives during our best Seahawks seasons in the ’00s.
My Official Second Team, therefore, will lead off with Jackson. I’m also going to take Joey Galloway, who would’ve been an absolute SUPERSTAR had he not made beef with Holmgren and forced his own ouster (as a plus, it should be noted that we received two first round draft picks from the Cowboys in exchange for his services; he was helping the Seahawks even when he wasn’t playing for ’em). It’s that third receiver that’s giving me fits, though. On our all-time receiving yards list, John L. Williams is #6, but he’s obviously NOT a wide receiver. Discounting other running backs and tight ends, the stats would tell me to pick Koren Robinson, but I’m most certainly NOT going in that direction. If I were picking an actual team, then I’d have my speed guy (Galloway), I’d have my Number 2 flanker (Jackson), so I’ll need a slot guy to round out the trio. Here’s where I throw you my curveball: Paul Skansi. He was only #14 on our all-time yardage list, but he had one of the most memorable catches in Seahawks history, and I think he’d be an excellent complement to who I have.
Tight End is probably the most questionable choice the fans made: John Carlson. Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy. I think, without question, he WILL be our all-time best tight end when all is said and done. But, he’s only been here for 3 years! Granted, in terms of all-time Seahawks tight ends, he’s #3 on the list for total yardage, but that just shows how TERRIBLE we’ve been, as a franchise, at the tight end position (see: Jerramy Stevens). Right now, I’ll take Itula Mili over both Carlson and Christian Fauria (#2 in total yards). He was a steady contributer, an excellent run blocker, and an all-around pro’s pro.
At Full Back, who could argue with Mack Strong? He was, bar none, our greatest asset in the running game when we were at our best. Shaun Alexander wouldn’t have had NEAR the success he had without Strong clearing the way. Plus, that NAME! That’s just an all-time great NFL name no matter WHAT team you’re on! For my personal Second Team, I’m going the other way with John L. Williams. I don’t remember what kind of a blocker he was – he seemed more like an oversized running back than a traditional full back – but he was an asset both rushing and receiving. I mean hell, you heard me mention him earlier: he’s our #6 all time receiver in yardage! Helluva guy, very under-appreciated considering he played for some down teams. Not for nothin’, but he’s also our 4th best rusher in terms of total yards.
At Offensive Line, like I said earlier, I couldn’t possibly pick a Second 5. Soon-to-be Hall of Famer Walter Jones anchors our left side along with Probable Hall of Famer Steve Hutchinson. Rounding it out, we’ve got Robbie Tobeck at center (making that 3/5 of our Super Bowl line). On the right side, we’ve got Bryan Millard and Howard Ballard. I don’t remember too much about those guys, except I think Ballard was one of the fattest individuals to ever play the position. Don’t quote me on that.
Part II – Defense
The fans certainly got our Devensive Ends correct. Jacob Green had 97.5 official sacks (though, unofficially he had well over 100, since sacks weren’t an official stat until 1982). Michael Sinclair is Number 2 on our list with 73.5 sacks. Sinclair played for some tremendous defenses who racked up an ungodly amount of pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
After those two, if I were putting together a Second team, long-time Jacob Green teammate Jeff Bryant would be first on my list. He had 63 sacks, good for #3 on the list. After that, I’d have to bypass all the DTs and OLBs on our total sacks list. I’d also bypass the HELL out of Patrick Kerney and probably go with Sinclair teammate Phillip Daniels. He was here for a brief period (not NEARLY as brief and injury-plagued as Kerney), but he was a beast opposite Sinclair. Mostly, he was a casualty of the salary cap; he got a better deal from the Chicago Bears and continued with a solid NFL career.
Defensive Tackle is probably our best overall position on the team. Should-be Hall of Famer Cortez Kennedy (and reason why our defense changed from the 3-4 we had throughout the 80s to the 4-3 we’ve employed to this day) is paired up with longtime fan-favorite (and ultimate field goal blocking specialist) Joe Nash. I can’t say ENOUGH good things about these two guys. If Largent is my favorite all-time football player, then Cortez is my favorite all-time defensive player. I’ve loved that guy since the moment he joined this team; cemented by his Defensive Player Of The Year Award in 1992 (the only bright spot in our very worst season as a franchise). Tez ended up 4th on our all-time sacks list with 58, in SPITE of constant double and sometimes triple-teams! If he played anywhere else, he’d be in the Hall of Fame by now. Since he played for the Seahawks (and since we were so bad in that stretch from 1990 to 2000), he’s finding it a struggle. The NFL should be ashamed if this class act doesn’t get in, that’s all I’m going to say about that.
Not for nothin’, but Joe Nash is 6th on our sacks list. He played from 1982 thru 1996 and somewhere in that stretch he had the team record for consecutive games played (since broken by steady offensive lineman Chris Gray).
As for the Second Team, I couldn’t have more quality guys to choose from. Don’t forget who drafted Sam Adams before he went on to glory in Baltimore. Don’t forget John Randle made an immediate impact in his brief stint with the team. Don’t forget about Rocky Bernard, who was absolutely INTEGRAL in our Super Bowl run! And I know it’s early, but if Mebane re-signs, we’re likely to see him as well climb this ladder of elite DTs. I know I have to choose two here, and I’m telling you right now, Rocky Bernard IS one of them! That brings us to Adams and Randle. I know we had Randle at the tail-end of his Hall of Fame career, but he was still playing at a very high level. Then again, Sam Adams would REALLY be the stout, run-stuffing nose tackle type my Second Team would need. Fuck, this is hard. And, I’m not gonna lie to you, it’s kinda bullshit! I mean, hell, what NFL team doesn’t have at LEAST a 3-man Defensive Tackle rotation? I’ll keep Adams and Bernard in there on 1st down; then swap out Adams for Randle on 3rd down when we need QB pressure! Done and done.
OK, so Linebacker is where things are getting a little hairy. The Website picked 4 linebackers, I guess a nod to the 3-4 defense we used to play. If I were going to pick just 3 linebackers, then I’d have to say the fans are right on with their choices of Lofa Tatupu, Chad Brown, and Rufus Porter. Lofa’s a born leader and a destructive influence in the middle for other teams. Rufus, remember, was a sack master coming off the edge for us. And Chad Brown, surprise surprise, is our leading overall tackler at the position.*
* I should point out here that Pro Football Reference for some reason didn’t keep good track of tackle numbers. For instance, the 4th linebacker fans chose – Fredd Young, who played with us from ’84 – ’87 – doesn’t have ANY tackles. I find that hard to believe.
Look, I don’t remember much, if anything, of Fredd Young’s Seahawks career. I remember his 1988 Topps football card, and I remember him going to the Indianapolis Colts that very same year. Apparently, he was a Pro Bowler; I dunno. He IS a name I recognize, which is more than I can say for the slim pickin’s I have for Second Team Linebacker.
Off the bat, my instincts tell me Terry Wooden is a guy I should have. I remember him as a steady, non-flashy kind of guy who wouldn’t miss many tackles (indeed, he’s #5 on our all-time list). On the other side, I guess we’d have to look at #6, Tony Woods. He played fewer seasons, but managed to put up some decent numbers. And, if I had to go MLB, I guess I’d look at Dave Wyman? #14 on all-time tackles list, I guess he’s a warm body. Honorable Mention to Julian Peterson, who was a casualty of a regime change and a first round draft pick. If memory serves, he was just cut by the Lions, which has to be a slap to the face of a very good career. But, I wasn’t all that broken up about his leaving in the first place; he did little to really WOW us here. Few more sacks couldn’t have hurt.
As for the Cornerbacks, I have nothing to add here. Marcus Trufant and Dave Brown are our starters, with Shawn Springs as a nickel back. I won’t dignify this position with selecting a second team.
Same kinda goes for Safeties; how am I EVER going to get anywhere NEAR the quality of Strong Safety Kenny Easley and Free Safety Eugene Robinson? I guess Robert Blackmon should probably get an honorable mention here, but I can’t even remember if he was a Safety or a Corner and I’m too lazy and indifferent to look online and confirm!
Rounding off our All Time Seahawks Team, we have the Special Teams.
Kicker – Norm Johnson, Punter – Rick Tuten, Kick-Off Returner Steve Broussard, Punt Returner Nate Burleson.
Can’t argue with ol’ Norm, so I’ll make my Second Team choice Josh Brown over Todd Peterson. Brown was Mr. Automatic while he was here, and the only reason we despise him so much for going to a division rival is because he’s the best kicker in the division.
You know what’s cool about the Kicker position, though? We’ve almost NEVER had a bad kicker in my lifetime. We had Norm from ’82 thru ’90, then an all-NFL great John Kasay from ’91 thru ’94 (before he decided to play closer to home in Carolina), then Peterson from ’95 thru ’99, then just a bit of a down spell with Rian Lindell from 2000 thru ’02, then back with Josh Brown from ’03 thru ’07 and Olindo Mare’s prowess ever since. All in all, a very strong position for us.
Rick Bootin’ Tuten is by FAR our best punter, during a period where all we DID was punt! I’ll take the ageless wonder Jeff Feagles for my Second Team.
Indeed, Steve Broussard DID have the most kickoff return yards in franchise history, but I’m going another direction here altogether: Leon Washington. Yes yes, I know, how can I have a problem with John Carlson being the Top Tight End having been here only 3 seasons, while saying Leon is our best kickoff returner after just 1? Well, I’ll tell ya! Do you know what our franchise record was for most kickoff returns for a touchdown was before 2010? 1, a record tied by 8 other guys. INCLUDING Mr. Broussard over his 165 returns in four seasons. Leon had 3, all in one year! And, among guys with 50 or more returns, Leon is tops in average yards per return with 25.6 (Broussard, meanwhile, averaged 2 yards fewer per return).
And yes, Nate has our record for most punt return yardage, but there are a couple guys I like more. Charlie Rogers is #3 on our list, but he had a higher per-return average. I think, though, if I’m picking MY Second Team, then I’m going with Joey Galloway. He has our team record of 4 punt return touchdowns and was ALWAYS a huge threat to take it to the house. Anyone who saw his return against Jacksonville will testify that Galloway was an absolute monster in the open field.
Overall, though, I think the fans did a good job on this list. 11 guys from the New Era of great Seahawks teams in the ’00s, 15 guys from the Golden Age of good Seahawks teams in the ’80s, and 3 guys from our underachieving ’90s teams.